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CYP = HTT*

Excellent post by pw201

Originally posted by pw201 at Yep, it’s still there

8856bff18d7ac166b097e64a71f2ca83A friend on Facebook linked to Louise Mensch vs Laurie Penny on the “check your privilege” thing. He went on to say he hadn’t come across that phrase, and wondered if it’s anything more than thinly veiled argumentum ad hominem. I done a comment, which seemed long enough to blog:


It’s jargon from the Internet social justice warrior subculture, as far as I can tell, so if you haven’t heard it, hang out on Tumblr, LiveJournal or bits of the feminist blogsphere (or, you know, don’t). It’s becoming more mainstream, if those articles are anything to go by.


The injunction to “check your privilege” means different things at different times. Sometimes it means “you are not in a position to know that”. For example, if I claimed “there is no homophobia in Cambridge”, someone could rightly point out that I’m not that likely to be a victim of homophobia. Saying that continues the argument by undercutting my claim.


Sometimes it does seem to act as what Suber calls “logical rudeness“, that is, saying “CYP!” insulates a theory from argument by attributing some fault to those who do not believe it, stopping the argument about the theory by switching it to an argument about the unbeliever. As Suber says, though, it’s not clear that there’s a general duty to respond to would-be debunkers of theories we hold, and claiming that, say, feminism is nonsense because so many feminists are fans of privilege checking is itself rude. However, Suber doesn’t seem to address the point that, if we’re interested in having accurate beliefs, we should debate those with the strongest counter-arguments: our rudeness should not allow the opposition to conclude we are mistaken, but it should worry us.


Using “CYP!” a single line response (on Twitter, or in a comment box, say) is just blowing off steam or cheering for your team, as far as I can tell. It doesn’t actually mean anything other than “yay for us and boo for you!”



Originally posted at Name and Nature. You can comment there. There are currently comments.


*Holier Than Thou

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the_omega_man
Jun. 3rd, 2013 02:12 am (UTC)
I haven't come across that, but my god, how absolutely cunty...

In fact, an adequate response to CYP may in fact be, "No, you check YOUR cuntiness!"



the_omega_man
Jun. 3rd, 2013 03:26 am (UTC)
By the way, before anyone yells "CYP!" because I dared to use the word "cunt" despite the fact that I don't own one, I would like to state categorically and for-the-record that I do exercise my privilege of access to one on a regular basis (and you'll no doubt be pleased to hear that the owner of the cunt-in-question incorporated the use of the Jane© patented phrase "sister of perpetual of sanctimony" into a spectacular tirade against a particularly tiresome social justice blogger, this morning).

Edited at 2013-06-03 03:37 am (UTC)
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